Re: Striped and unstriped Lobiger viridis together
December 8, 2009
From: David and Leanne Atkinson
Concerning message #5658:
Dear Bill,
Keen eyed dive buddy spotted this Lobiger on some kelp at Fly Point. We have not seen one before in our 30 years of diving the area. Would you please help with the identification? It has the blue stripes like the Lobiger souverbii but in this message you were saying that you were identifying both blue striped and plain individuals in this area as Lobiger viridis.
Locality: Fly Point, Port Stephens-Great Lakes Marine Park, Port Stephens , 8metres, New South Wales, Australia, Pacific Ocean, 06 December 2009, Sandy bottom with kelp, scattered sponges, bryozoans, ascidians, soft corals and gorgonias. Length: 6 mm. Photographer: David and Leanne Atkinson.
Thanks for your help,
David & Leanne Atkinson
atk@hunterlink.net.au
Atkinson, D. & L., 2009 (Dec 8) Re: Striped and unstriped Lobiger viridis together. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/22944Dear David and Leanne,
It is a nice find and nice photos showing the head so clearly. Some people have decided to synonymise the Indo-West Pacific L. viridis with the earlier Caribbean L. souverbii but I know of no anatomical comparison. it seems to me that there are differences in the 'cerata' which flank the shell. which in Pacific animals usually have large enrolled secondary flaps. Kathe Jensen [message #5641] also suggests there are radula differences which need to be investigated.
In shape and colour the two 'species' appear to be closely related and both appear to have lines and unlined variations. It is possible they are the same species and so represent another circumglobal species, but I think we need a proper comparative study. Synonymising species should not be undertaken lightly because if can lead to greater nomenclatural confusion than keeping them as separate species. If they turn out to be separate species we have the added complication of identifying the East Pacific animal in Kevin Lee's message [#22938]. As a number of tropical American species occur on both sides of the Panama Isthmus, is it the West Pacific species or is it the Caribbean species?
Best wishes,
Bill Rudman
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