Hypselodoris cf. carnea
Order: NUDIBRANCHIA
Suborder: DORIDINA
Family: Chromodorididae
DISTRIBUTION
Hypselodoris carnea (Bergh, 1889) is known only from South Africa, Red Sea and Mauritius.
PHOTO
Fly Point, Port Stephens, New South Wales, Australia in 8M. PHOTO: David Atkinson.
Hypselodoris carnea (Bergh, 1889) is only known from the western Indian Ocean. See messages below where this very similarly coloured animal from New South Wales, Australia, and northwestern Australia are described.
Authorship detailsRudman, W.B., 1998 (March 19) Hypselodoris cf. carnea [In] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/hypscfca
Related messages
Hypselodoris sp. from New Caledonia
November 3, 2006
From: Jean-François Hervé
Dear Bill,
Attached are photos of another Hypselodoris I found last month.
Locality: Noumea, 15 m, New caledonia, Pacific Ocean, August 06. Length: 20 mm. Photographer: Jean-François Hervé.
It seems to look like Hypselodoris peasei with the white lines but it's endemic to Hawaï and there are some differences.
Thank you.
Best Regards.
Jean-François
jfherve@free.fr
Hervé, J.F., 2006 (Nov 3) Hypselodoris sp. from New Caledonia. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/17722Dear Jean-François,
This is a species I am at present calling Hypselodoris cf carnea, not because I think its closely related to Hypselodoris carnea but simply because it looks quite like it.
Best wishes,
Bill Rudman
Hypselodoris from Thailand
January 26, 2001
From: Narongpon Sittithaweepat
Dear Bill
I can't identify this nudibranch. I found it at Surin Island and photo by Dr. Thon Thamrongnawasawat. I don't record date and depth.
Thank you
Narongpon Sittithaweepat
chromodorid@thaimail.com
Sittithaweepat, N., 2001 (Jan 26) Hypselodoris from Thailand. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/2238Dear Narongpon,
Sorry it has taken me a while to reply to this message. This is a species I am temporarily calling Hypselodoris cf. carnea.
Best wishes,
Bill Rudman
Hypselodoris cf. carnea feeding
January 19, 2001
From: Nerida Wilson
Hi Bill,
These pictures of a Hypselodoris sp. feeding were taken in the Dampier Archipelago in August 2000. Jane Fromont is in the process of identifying the sponge, so I will let you know what is it in the near future
Cheers
Nerida
nwilson@zen.uq.edu.au
Wilson, N., 2001 (Jan 19) Hypselodoris cf. carnea feeding. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/3501
Thanks Nerida,
The sponge looks like a Dysidea, but from experience, I know it's better to wait for the experts to decide.
Best wishes,
Bill Rudman.
Hypselodoris cf. carnea from Taiwan
January 19, 2001
From: Bernard E. Picton
Hi Bill,
Here is a picture of an animal which I collected in Taiwan in April 1983,
(North Coast - my no. BEPTA/14). I've never been able to name it, but I think it is identical to Clay Bryce's 'Hypselodoris carnea' from Western Australia (Forum: Feb 13th 1999).
Bernard
bernard.picton.um@nics.gov.uk
Picton, B.E., 2001 (Jan 19) Hypselodoris cf. carnea from Taiwan. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/3560Thanks Bernard,
With the information now available it is clearly not the South African H. carnea. Although it lacks the white lines, I would agree they are probably the same.
Bill Rudman
Hypselodoris carnea? from Western Australia
February 13, 1999
From: Clay Bryce
Bill,
A little extra info on Hypselodoris carnea. The attached image is from the Dampier Archipelago (The Kimberley, NW Australia). Station 33; the site is in Flying Foam Passage which has a fine silty substrate with a sparse sponge, soft coral and Turbinaria (hard coral) garden. The animal was found on a rock between possible food sources - as usual! Size: 3cm.: Depth 11m.: Collection date: Oct. 1998: Reg. No. 12054.
I have it down as H. cf. carnea due to the excess of brown lines (or is it brown dots that have joined?). But it does make a nice merge with the true H. carnea from S. Africa and those from E Aust. Some of the images in the Forum seem to look a bit like H. capensis as figured in Terry Gosliner's Nudibranchs of S.Africa.
Cheers,
Clay Bryce
Western Austrlian Museum
Perth
brycec@museum.wa.gov.au
Bryce, C., 1999 (Feb 13) Hypselodoris carnea? from Western Australia. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/559Thanks Clay,
It will be interesting to see if anyone can help close the gap across the Indian Ocean.
Bill Rudman.
Hypselodoris carnea? from New South Wales
February 12, 1999
From: Carol Buchanan
Hi Bill
It's a good feeling to be able get involved in nudibranchs again, even though it is from above the water at this stage! I've been wandering about in the Sea Slug forum and
found a message from the Atkinsons re Hypselodoris carnea & your reply. I have found and photographed these little beasts quite a few times in the Solitary Islands, (northern new South Wales, Australia) although their colour is a bit variable. Anyway, here are photos of different specimens.
I'm more than happy to help out in the Forum, as I said , its good to be involved again. I'm currently off work until 1st July so have at least a bit of spare time on my hands.
Regards,
Carol Buchanan
Coffs Harbour
New South Wales.
nandcimages@key.net.au
Buchanan, C., 1999 (Feb 12) Hypselodoris carnea? from New South Wales. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/557Dear Carol,
I'm glad to hear from you and any help with the Forum will be greatly appreciated. As you will have seen, quite a few people have questions about keeping nudibranchs in aquaria. I'm sure your expertise in that area will be of great value, as will any photos of interesting animals and even of boring ones doing interesting things.
Thanks for the photos of this Hypselodoris carnea lookalike. If it is indeed H. carnea the species has a strange disjunct distribution, being known only from the western Indian Ocean and eastern Australia. I would very much like some specimens if you find any.
Best wishes,
Bill Rudman.
Hypselodoris carnea at Fly Point
March 19, 1998
From: David & Leanne Atkinson
Bill,
I found Hypselodoris carnea at the weekend at Fly Point, Port Stephens in 8M. My book (Nudibranchs and Sea Snails by Helmut Debelius) says that they are East Indian Ocean dwellers. The first I have seen. Are many found here?
David & Leanne Atkinson
atkin@hunterlink.net.au
Atkinson, D. & L., 1998 (Mar 19) Hypselodoris carnea at Fly Point. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/73It certainly looks quite like photos I have seen of Hypselodoris carnea. The main colour difference appears to be that the orange-brown lines in your photo are distinct spots in Indian Ocean specimens. Also the border around the anterior end of the mantle in Indian Ocean specimens is an unbroken bluish line, while in your Port Stephens animal there is a row of purplish spots around the mantle edge. These differences may not necessarily be of significance but I would need to have a look at the anatomy of a specimen, including its reproductive system and the shape of its radular teeth, before I could confirm its identity. From the photo I can't even be sure it is a species of Hypselodoris. It could equally be a Chromodoris. Whatever it is it is very interesting and something I have not seen in eastern Australia before...Bill Rudman
Rudman, W.B., 1998 (Mar 19). Comment on Hypselodoris carnea at Fly Point by David & Leanne Atkinson. [Message in] Sea Slug Forum. Australian Museum, Sydney. Available from http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/73